Many intellectuals believe that governments have not been able to satisfy their citizen's basic needs because of their monopolies and the lack of incentives. In this interview, Luis Figueroa has a conversation with Patri Friedman regarding a promising new type of organizational society in the ocean. Friedman explains the basic elements of seasteading and presents the benefits this idea could bring to people around the world who seek freedom in order to succeed. He explains the barriers this project might encounter, but emphasizes on the long-term contribution this would make to liberty.